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  How do you feel about religion as a whole?

  by FatherFirst in

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  it just seems to me religion in general primarily makes truly bad people worse, not genuinly good people better; and in many cases has even made good people do bad things in the name of their religion.

  just curious, a personal poll if you will.

  what are you guys' current views on religion as a whole?

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  A religious persons argument that he only reason we have morals is because of religion. In other words if it wasn't for that persons religion he would be out robbing, raping and murdering? Morals would have evolved regardless of religion.
  
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  How much do you love Spam?

  by John Aquila in

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  i not sure how popular it is in other parts of the world but in my part of the world, it is not popular at all.

  if you had to climb a ladder to get to it you would have to climb over steak, ham, fish, chicken, tuna, bologna, and a few others meats before you get to spam..

  i have not seen a spam commercial since the 90s.

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  I like the Monty Python Spam skit.

  This is not like the good old days when banging on doors was the most important thing, rain, snow or shine. I recall one time some kids following us from door to door heckling us. Instead of leaving and coming back another day the elder made the decision for us to continue over the heckling.
  
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  Does anyone else find reinstated dubs can be the most hypocritical?

  by William Penwell in

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  2. beliefs

  i have seen this over the years that some that get df'd and later reinstated can be the most hypocritical.

  one case comes to find about my nephew who was df'd about 10 years ago for cupping a little feel of some dub sisters boobs.

  well right away he turns to us non dubs for moral support as he is being ostracized by the dub relatives.

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  I have seen this over the years that some that get DF'd and later reinstated can be the most hypocritical. One case comes to find about my nephew who was DF'd about 10 years ago for cupping a little feel of some dub sisters boobs. Well right away he turns to us non dubs for moral support as he is being ostracized by the dub relatives. Well he was trying to get reinstated he would party, drink and carouse like the rest of the wicked "worldly" friends. As soon as he was reinstated it is like we now don't exist, which I knew he would happen but only if he wants a favor from one of us then we are OK. Well just recently there was an issue in our family that he found offense to something posted by an ex dub relative on their facebook page and is doing like any good brain dead dub and is shunning that person. I think I am just venting here but also would like to open up the discussion and feedback as to what others experiences on here with reinstated dubs?
  

  I am at the point now as I have kept my mouth shut over the years on certain Jdub matters out of respect for my elderly parents. Now they are both gone I am finding it more and more difficult to just keep my mouth shut as I do not care what the rest of the brain dead relatives have to think.
  
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  Letter From My Elder Uncle

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok guys, this is long, so i am sorry, but i think it is important to publish.

  this is a glimpse into a 4 page letter (love that song) from my uber elder uncle.

  as some of you may know i got tired of being in an email chain and finally lost it and lashed out.

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  This is not even worth responding to. Like other posters on here mentioned it is no win situation. If you want to fade you will have to give him a polite response.

  I like the quote about the fear of death,

  "It's the heart afraid of breaking that never learns to dance. It's the dream afraid of waking that never takes the chance. It's the one who won't be taken who cannot seem to give

  And the soul afraid of dying who never learns to live"

  This reminds me of a quote I just read of Mark Twains, "The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time." That is the trouble with the JW's as they always fear death and are never allowed to enjoy this life.
  

  
  
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  21 Years as an Elder, 5 as an MS, I will never be that guy again.

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was deleted as the cobe after i let my adult child move back home and he admitted that he fornicated under my roof while my wife and i where away on a rbc project.

  of course the elder mode in me kicked him out of the house.. the elders moved quickly to remove me because i was too involved in "theocractic activities", i had neglected my adult son.. i accepted this primarily because i didn't want to serve with a boe that did not want me.

  i was devastated however because it was the only life i knew.

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  Welcome Jack,

  It seems like certain elders can get away with something where others cannot. I guess you weren't one of the "good ol boys". My ex father in law was a MS and was deleted as one when his then teenage daughter moved back into their home. She was living with her boy friend I think. Regardless after that my ex mother in law would not go to any more meetings over that and my ex father in law slowly faded out to. So what did the elders accomplish? To this day none of the family is in the religion. The only one is my ex.
  
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  Ex-Christians being angry

  by Jonathan Drake in

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  i know i'm angry.

  i was curious if others are too.

  i feel completely justified in my anger as well.

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  I was angry and/or frustrated because I still believed in their opinions on morality, good, and bad. Christian morality only supports victimhood, self shame, and condemns everything normal for humans. For example, money is bad, sex is bad, self esteem is bad, being a doormat is good, blindly doing what im told is good, being the victim is good, standing up for myself is bad, etc.

  My big pet peeve with religion. I once heard it said that religion appeals to your approval seeking self. In the real world to get ahead this does not work whether in business, romance or friendships. People only want a door mate if they want something but someone they can walk over it not attractive. In the end they do not respect you. They look to people that are assertive and know what they want in life. Religion or any cults like a passive person type of person as they can control them. This is something I have being fighting with all my life.
  
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  JWs as described by Cracked

  by Vidiot in

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  http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-religions-youve-got-all-wrong-because-hollywood/.

  the article describes four different religions (rastafari, jws, amish, and scientology); jws are #3.. the jw entry is pretty accurate (and as usual, funny), but surprisingly doesn't mention the two-witness-rule-related legal troubles the wt has been having lately.

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  I just posted something on their page correcting that error.
  
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  Ex-Christians being angry

  by Jonathan Drake in

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  i know i'm angry.

  i was curious if others are too.

  i feel completely justified in my anger as well.

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  I too at times think about what this religion robbed me off. I feel as a young teen what I could have done if I was allowed to apply myself. Growing up it was never encouraged because the Kingdum work was the most important work. Even though my teens and early twenties was wasted on a deluded dream, I am glad I got out when I did. I cannot change the past but I can look forward to a future where I can still fulfill some of my dreams without a cult telling me its wrong. I once heard it said that the biggest tragedy in life is looking back and realizing there were things you would have like to do but never did it. Like I said the only thing I can do now is look ahead and not behind.
  
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  It's time to say goodbye to JWD - I sold it !

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  a week or so ago i posted that the forum was 15 years old (15 years of jehovahs-witness.com) and hinted that there may be some news to announce about the site:.

  i also may have some other news to share soon about the future of the site so stay posted.

  well, now i can announce it - i sold it !.

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  William Penwell

  You had me for a few seconds until I remembered it was April fools day. Good one.
  
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  Does anybody know what the "special broadcast" to all the Kingdom Halls (canada) is about on march 22?

  by hoser in

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  heard about it today just not sure if i should go

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  William Penwell

  You know whatever it is you will hear it here first.